Teacher Talking Time

Teacher Talking Time

This article is the first of 3 from the blog ELT Notebook.

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At one time teacher talking time (TTT) was seen as being inevitably counterproductive and something to be limited as much as possible. Why? There are five main arguments against it :

  • A large amount of TTT necessarily limits the amount of STT (student talking time). For example, in a 60 minute class, if the teacher is talking for a total of 45 minutes, that leaves only fifteen minutes left for the students. If there are ten in the class, they’ll get only 90 seconds each to speak. Many activities, however, do not need to be teacher led – pair work (PW) or group work (PW) can be used instead. A practice activity might be set up in T/class mode, demonstrated in open pairs (students doing the activity in front of the class), and done in closed pairs (all the students working at the same time).
  • A large amount of TTT inevitably means long stretches of time in T/class mode. This is uninvolving for students and is likely to lead to a drop in concentration and in pace. The lesson becomes boring and students “switch off”. To prevent this, activities and interaction patterns (T/class,PW,GW, IW) need to be be varied. How much class time can usefully be spent in T/class mode will depend on factors such as the students, the time of day, and what is being taught, but a useful rule of thumb guide is to set an absolute maximum of 30% of any one lesson, and no more than 10 minutes at a stretch.
  • TTT often means that the teacher is “telling” the students things that they could be working out for themselves – for instance grammar explanations and corrections. Apart from the fact that concentration may well wander half way through the explanation, monologue gives the teacher no real clue as to whether the students have understood. This can be avoided by using elicitation rather than explanation – the teacher asks pointer questions rather than simply telling, allowing the students to formulate the rules for themselves. If students are presented with clear examples and guiding questions, they often do not need to be “told”. Discovering grammar in this way is liable to mean deeper understanding and ultimately more successful learning. Organising the activity as pair work rather than T/class work also means that all the students have the chance to work on the new language, and not just the quicker ones who get the answer immediately and “tell” the others.
  • The work done by researchers such as Coulthard and Brazil on discourse analysis made it clear that T/S discourse is always distorted by the role imbalance of teacher and student – the teacher is expected to take the lead in initiating the topic, allocating turns, evaluating comments etc, while the student merely responds. A typical piece of classroom discourse might go something like :
    T : Right. (indication of change of topic) Can you turn to page 99 and look at the picture (instructs) What sport is that? (initiates discourse topic) Paola? (allocates speaking turn)
    S : Tennis (responds)
    T : Yes, tennis. Good. (evaluates)
    If students are constantly kept in T/class mode or if the teacher participates in PW or GW, there is a very high probability that the discourse will follow this sort of pattern. But this, as researchers such as Crystal and Davy, and Brown and Yule have shown is very different from the structure of normal conversation, where participants have equal rights and need to be able to carry out all the different moves in the discourse. PW and GW without teacher intervention is therefore essential for developing the speaking skill.
  • If the teacher is constantly dominant and controlling, student autonomy is minimised. Students take no responsibility for their own learning but learn what the teacher decides and when. Several methodologies of the last twenty five years or so (for example, CLL and Dogme, which I will discuss in more detail in future articles) have questioned whether this sort of “imposed syllabus” can produce results and have attempted to turn the situation on its head, giving learners full responsibility for the language produced and analysed in the classroom.

Is TTT always counterproductive however? In the second part of this article we’ll look at when it can be useful, and ways it can be used productively in the class.

Notes

1. For a more detailed analysis of classroom discourse, with references for the work of the researchers I have mentioned and many others, see this article by Moritoshi.

Should you wish to discuss this more why not first post below before talking to your colleagues.

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The larger, the better

We cannot avoid teaching classes with 18, 20 or even 22 Ss nowadays. For our reality, these are large groups and this makes the complexity of classes increase.

As I see it, the technical and methodological aspects of class preparation and classroom management are very important. However, the affective aspects of the T-S relationship and the T’s conduct is crucial for a successful management of large groups. At least that’s what I’ve concluded from observing other teachers and after doing a lot of self evaluation.

What do you think of the topic? How difficult is it to you to deal with large groups? What tips can you share with other teachers to make this task easier?

You may also leave a comment at Marcelo’s site.

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Teachers Survey

Now it is your turn

Please complete the survey from you pint of view as a teacher/student

Now write the comments that your students said after your interview with them. POST  IN THE SPACE BELOW

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Student Survey

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Review and Summary of Teacher´s Comments

Teacher’s comments on Dynamic classes

This is a summary of the things we game up with which lead us to forming questions to ask students The main quotes form the posts/comments

….when the teacher made my body move and my brain think in a meaningful way”

“Dynamics is movement and accepting change, new possibilities and horizons.”

“….sometimes by destabilizing the system we can make it evolve” “Balance is a sense of mental and emotional calm”

“Classes which have a variety of activity … which have a nice pace”

“Dynamic classes… is related to motivation both on the teacher and the student's …motivation is related to rapport”

“….this is a word (dynamism) in fashion…. people have been using it to mean different things.”

“Teachers must work on student’s perception of dynamism”

“REFELECT. Did they (students) find it dynamic?” (this means with the students)

“Dynamic lessons are a lot to do with how you know your students… to improve our lessons…. ,is through reflection and sharing”

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Student Interviews and Data

In this area of our Blog we will be able to store information of transcribed interviews carried out by our students or audio recorded interviews on the branch podcast set up for this research

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What is a dynamic Classes? Your views

Please post your on comments here about what is a dynamic class

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Dynamic classes????

DYNAMICS is a subject within itself. It is linked today mainly with Maths, computers. There is a lot of information on these areas but little on teaching

I was watching the TV one morning while sitting in my Doctor´s waiting room and I was listening to my favourite samba singer Beth Carvalho speaking and she was talking about how she likes to introduce new, up and coming composers to people she knows in the samba comunity.

The interviewer asked he why she did this.

She responded "because it make the things more dynamic". What did she mean?

This is a question that has not been defined well in ELT and this project we hope will do just this so we can be better teachers and of course be more DYNAMIC and be more DYNAMIC teachers.

Below are some definitions of what is dynamic taken from various sources

1.Cambridge online Dictionary.

This is a simple definition of dynamic/dynamism

2. a) Websters Online Dictionary One more definition to compare

b) Webster´s Online Thesaurus What is different with this information

3. A book review about Dymanic classroom for young children. Have alook at this link and see the main points the author uses to describe a dymanic classroom

4. Dynamic communites

This article talks about dynamic learning communites. have a look and see what you think can be applied to our work in the English language classroom.

5. Teaching Credibility

A link to the University of Oklahoma. Thi is an interesting article and it gives 3 areas of what makes up as they call it "credible teacher" . One of them is dynamism.

6. Lu Wang´s Dynamic classroom. This Law student had an article in the University of Pittsburgh´s Teaching Times, and this is what she says about how she sees her dynamic classroom .

There is lots of information on dynamism on your computer. Just go searching and you´ll find much more. Maybe you could post some of it here to enrich our work.

To post own your views on dynamic classes go to the next page. Put any reaseacrh you find here only

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Sequence of activites

An intial plan was drawn up as a guide to carrying out the action reaserch project

1. Set up a blog to store data

2. background reading on Dynamism and Dynamic classes to be posted on the blog for the group to read.

3. Teachers to state/post what they feelin is a dymanic class

4. Questions to be agreed before teachers interview students to here their views on what is a dynamic class

5. Interviews to be posted on the blog.
6. Results to be reviewed

7. Conclusion made as to what is a dynmic class based on all the informatio posted
8. Plans made by the group as to the course of action to be taken in the classroom.

9. Teachers to put into action their enlightened view on what is a dynamic class.

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What is ACTION RESEARCH?

Action Reasearch Diagram

Here are two quotes that were used in the first meeting on 10th March 2006,about our project at Cultura Inglesa Asa Sul, Brasilia, Brazil.

“Research, usually informal, designed for direct application to behaviour or a situation, as researched by teachers in their classroom”

Supervising Teachers, Randal and Thornton, CUP, 2001

“Action Research is a fancy way of saying let´s study what is happening in our school and decide how to make it a beter place”

Emily Calhoun, 1994.

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